071 – Marko Might Be The King Of The Goofballs

Marko Lazarovich and Jerememy Praach discussing motorcycles

NEED TO KNOW:

  • Tuesday 2/17: World’s Smallest Indoor Motorcycle Race at the Coop
  • Wednesday 2/18: Elwood’s pre-party mini bike race, pits inside, race in the parking lot
  • Thursday: Harley-Davidson Museum race 6-8pm, then official pre-party at Miramar Theater with DJ Magic Mike
  • Friday 2/21: Flat Out Friday, afterparty at the Coop with Midwest Mudfest + Spaghetti Wrestling
  • Saturday 2/22: Mama Tried at Eagles Ballroom, perogis at Kochanski’s, afterparty at Iron Horse Hotel
  • Sunday 2/23: Rumors of a motorcycle race on ice in Milwaukee
  • Book your hotels

THE EPISODE:

  • https://www.instagram.com/marko_weirdo/ 
  • Jeremy goes solo
  • Guest: Marco Lazarovich, Harley factory race team engineer, crew chief for James Rispoli
  • King of the Baggers explained like you have too many concussions
  • “It’s not developed to be a sport bike — that’s the handicap”
  • Chain wallet guys now care about Superbike
  • “I’m just nerdy in something that’s not nerd”
  • Goofball: has to be stupid, has to be entertaining, has to be somewhat competitive
  • Jets Pizza guy ,”Maybe 30% chance I wreck the costume”
  • Chicken bike, ”Dude, I need 60 lbs of feathers”
  • 71 vs 70.5 inches — close enough
  • 3 hours bleaching a mullet for Hulk Hogan “Wait, women do this normally?”

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Full Transcript


Jeremy: All right, welcome to — I think this might be our 80th episode of Flat Out Friday Mama Tried podcast. I’m here solo without Scott or Warren here, lonely in the shop with my friend Marco here that’s going to be coming up and talking in just a little bit. But before we get into our weekly interview with our all-star cast, I just wanted to give a summary of what’s going on this week with what’s going on the week of Mama Tried Flat Out Friday.

Is it the 17th? Brian, help me out. Is it this Tuesday the 17th of February? Yeah, Tuesday the 17th of February. World’s smallest indoor motorcycle race at the Coop here in Milwaukee. The 18th is at Elwood’s. If you’ve ever been to Milwaukee before and been at Elwood’s, it’s the pre-party mini bike race in the parking lot right there. And the bike race goes — the pits are inside the bar. The race is out in the parking lot.

Thursday, race at the Harley-Davidson Museum in the early evening, 6:00 to 9, let’s say 6:00 to 8. Then after that is the official pre-party Thursday night at the Miramar Theater. We’ve got a lot of great things happening at this party. How about DJ Magic Mike coming from all the way from Las Vegas.

Then of course, Friday is Flat Out Friday. The official Friday afterparty is going to be at the Coop again with the Midwest Mudfest and Spaghetti Wrestling done very modestly, professionally, hilariously.

Saturday, of course, is the Mama Tried show at the Eagles Ballroom. We take a little break in the late evening. We go and have some pierogis at a quintessential Milwaukee poker bar, Kochanski’s. That night, we have the official afterparty at the Iron Horse Hotel. There’ll be some shenanigans to say the least.

And then Sunday we have the Mama Tried show. I don’t know what the hours are that time. It’s kind of loose. That’s the time to go to church at the Eagles Ballroom and see the beautiful sun coming in there and shining on the motorcycles. And then there’s rumors of a motorcycle race on ice in the city of Milwaukee on that Sunday, the 22nd.

So, I’m looking forward to seeing everybody coming to Milwaukee. Don’t forget to book your hotels and let’s rip it. Let’s get into Marco here.


Jeremy: Thanks. Well, I’m going to start. So, my name is Jeremy Prach and I’m running the Flat Out Friday Mama Tried podcast. I am part of the Mama Tried Flat Out Friday family and I find myself here solo with our guest Marco.

Marco: Yeah.

Jeremy: Marco, what’s your last name?

Marco: Lazarovich.

Jeremy: I’m sorry. Say that one more time.

Marco: Lazarovich.

Jeremy: Very good. Very good. We’re gonna — hold on, Marco. We’re going to dig deep into Marco. There’s many reasons why he’s here. He’s got many qualifications to be here. More qualifications to be here than myself. Bold statement. But I find myself here alone in Warren’s shop. Those of you that maybe tune in regularly to our regular weekly podcast that we put out pretty regularly. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen it. It’s in the studio, but the studio’s heat is broken. So, we find ourselves here in the shop, which is a toasty probably 47 degrees.

Marco: It’s not bad.

Jeremy: And my guests are gone. We are in what I call of the Flat Out Friday seasons. You know, there’s carefree season in the summer. Then there was renting and signing contract season, getting social media ready season, and now we are in free ticket season. So, I’m really excited to be here in free ticket season, which usually means we’re about two, three weeks out.

I’m going to take a moment at the end here. I’ll do some preview of what you can expect. We are — everything is signed and we are ready to roll the week out in full. I’ll get that towards the end. I don’t want to make Mr. Lazarovich — what was his name again?

Marco: Lazarovich.

Jeremy: Lazarovich. Got it. Okay. I don’t want to make Marco any more later than he is and I really appreciate Marco being here.

Marco, I’m not going to ask you any more questions anymore. I’m not going to explain this question anymore, but why do you think you’re here?

Marco: I mean, I’ve done Flat Out Friday Goofball Class a bunch of times and, yeah, I feel like they’ve been pretty memorable builds and performances kind of as it is in the goofball inappropriate class. So, that’s probably why.

Jeremy: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure. We want to — our 10 years here with Flat Out Friday. We want to celebrate not only our staff but participants and people that are in it. And you certainly, I think, get overlooked. You’ve been underappreciated. Is that a fair statement?

Marco: I mean, maybe. I don’t know. I kind of don’t think so. It’s sometimes like—

Jeremy: Yeah. Well, good. Well, we can unpack and talk more about Goofball. We’re going to get into that in a little bit. I like to just know a little bit more about you. And so, we’re using this opportunity to learn more about you. You’re wearing a Harley — what is it called? Merch. I think it’s a shacket.

Marco: A shirt jacket, right?

Jeremy: Yeah. What’s your nine-to-five? What’s your gig?

Marco: Nine to five, I work for the Harley factory race team. And I basically do development for them. And then when we go racing, I’m a crew chief for one of our riders, James Rispoli. So, yeah.

Jeremy: So, are you an engineer or a racer?

Marco: I’m an engineer. I’m not a racer as much as it may appear in your world here, right?

Jeremy: And you went to college.

Marco: Yeah, I went to college at MSOE actually. So, got the MSOE hat on. Yeah, I went to MSOE for college for mechanical engineering and then I worked in like industrial compressors at Vilter, south side of town, for a while. And then I got into bikes in college at some point and yeah, I just went crazy for motorcycles and decided, man, I should try to get into the industry at some point. So I found a job with Harley.

Jeremy: You weren’t into motorcycles till you graduated college?

Marco: No, not — I mean, a little bit before I graduated, probably 19, I got into motorcycles and yeah, I kind of went deep end into them. Like, you know, it was really — not like my dad, man, my dad was super against it. So, like it’s actually a good — a good buddy of mine from school got into him. I’m like, how did this happen? How did you get a motorcycle? It was unfathomable to me. So, I’m like, but what about insurance and blah blah blah? My dad’s pretty strict financially, right? So he’s like, “Oh, you’re just going to spend money and blah blah blah.” And he wasn’t wrong.

Jeremy: Yeah, for sure.

Marco: And I — but I, man, I just fell in love and like just went crazy at it, you know? So I started off on just street bike stuff, then got into track days a little bit and yeah, I mean now I pretty much — I try to do every discipline of motorcycling that I can. So, I do a lot of off-road riding, hard enduro type of stuff, trials. I got into a little bit of ice riding, used to do road racing a little bit, but yeah.

Jeremy: So, I don’t mean this to be condescending at all. I’m just trying to simplify it for my simple Neanderthal brain. When you’re on headset with James, you’re not telling him lines. You’re not telling him race talk. You’re talking maybe engineering.

Marco: We don’t really do like headset so we can’t communicate with the riders. So really, like sometimes it’s that kind of stuff, but I mean really — so he comes in off the track, right, and then we talk about, “Hey, what can be better? What’s worse from the setup that we had? Where’s he struggling?” You know, he’s like, “I just can’t get it to do X.” So then, all right, how do we get it to do that? And then it’s like, “Ah, man, we can’t touch that,” or what can we touch in that session if it’s like a hot track, you know, or if it’s a test session, maybe we have some more time to play with it and things like that.

Jeremy: This takes you traveling.

Marco: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we’re seven rounds this year. We’re going, you know, with the King of the Bagger series with MotoAmerica. And then, yes, yeah. I’ve traveled quite a bit with the team to different test tracks and then to — even I went to EICMA Italy this fall kind of and then even went to Croatia with James. Yeah, James was at both of those too, but yeah.

Jeremy: So when there’s — let’s pause for a second and talk about the bagger racing. Again, talk to me like I have too many concussions. There’s kind of two leagues. King of the Baggers and then the Bagger Racing League. Are they at all related? Are they a feeder system?

Marco: They are related in that they’re racing baggers. But they’re not really related per se. And maybe — yeah.

Jeremy: Would it be fair to say one’s the A class and one’s the B class?

Marco: Okay. I don’t — without just being — because that sounds disrespectful.

Jeremy: Yeah. And I don’t think it is necessarily, but there’s, you know, different players in each of them kind of, right?

Marco: And yeah, okay. I mean, that — maybe we don’t talk about that part of it. Sorry, it’s a little maybe that’s a little political.

Jeremy: Got it. So from what I — again, when I see it from my infantile lens, much like the rise and fall of hooligan racing kind of helped push flat track for a little while there. Bagger racing is kind of saving road racing. Is that a bold statement or is that offensive too?

Marco: I don’t know. I mean, depends on who you are if you’re going to get offended. I don’t know about saving road racing, but I mean it’s like you said, it’s definitely an injection into it. Even like just more — even hooligan racing too, right? Like these are both — right, with hooligan racing now more in MotoAmerica. That’s also a big push for road racing in the US. And for sure the bagger racing stuff has been a healthy injection.

And I mean, I don’t want to sound too philosophical here, but kind of like a cross-pollination of different groups, right? Like, you know, I joined the team in the second year basically that they had a factory effort into it and man, it was just super cool to see what you think is like the most stereotypical Harley customer, right? Like the whole biker get up and, you know, and they come up, they’re talking to you and you’re like, “Yep, all right. Yeah, I know this person’s going to be into Harley motorcycle racing. Cool.”

And then these same people, chain wallet, you know, like leather gear, like, “Yeah, we started watching Superbike after we got into the bagger stuff.” And man, “My wife, she loves Gerloff.” “Nah, not my guy.” And I’m like, what? You guys now care about Superbike? Man, this is rad.

You know, and then even seeing like — we did a — we attended a track day at Road Atlanta to get some time one year and just seeing — and this was kind of initially, it was like the bagger thing was not really accepted well by everybody, right? But so this was kind of a big turning point for me. Like we went to a track day and all these track day dudes on not Harley, right, were coming over and checking out our bikes and we’re like, “Oh, dude, these things are rad.” And like it just was super cool.

Even at a track day, right, it’s just a big practice for everybody. We went to one of the turns and we’re watching people — spectators, you know, it’s just a track day, but they were like, “Oh, dude, he’s going to outbrake him. Oh my god.” And like, you know, it just is crazy.

You know, we don’t see it even in the bagger racing now that’s televised, right? But to see — and it’s often compared — but to see the bagger on track with other sport bikes, right? Purebreds. And then you have this huge touring bike with bags on it just blew the doors off of an R1. What just happened? You know, so like it was really cool to see and like again really cool to see everybody into it and accepting it more.

Jeremy: So let me go into — and I, again, I don’t know these questions. What is the threshold for making it a bagger into a race bike? Like, you know, what throttles it back? What restricts it? You know what I mean? What are the restrictions to keep it bagger racing as opposed to just flipping over to a pro race? You know what I’m saying? Because isn’t there — there’s some stock things that must be maintained.

Marco: Yeah. Right. So, we’re stock frame for sure. So, that’s one of the things, right? And that’s — I mean, it’s not developed to be a sport bike, right? It’s not developed for this, right? That’s the handicap and that’s why we’re drawn to it because it shouldn’t happen, right?

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: I mean, along with some other things, right? Like transmission and a lot of the engine pieces like must remain. So, like as much as we, you know, we’re limited to those, we try to do everything else we can within the rules, right, to try to make it the sportiest thing it can be, right?

So, you know, I mean, it was kind of a crazy world at first of being, you know, there were failures, you know, but man, we were breaking parts that like they were originally designed for like a third of that power, you know, so like where everything else, man, these things come with like a lineage, right? Like it’s just a purebred, you know, a lot of the sport bike development where here this thing is meant to like go at 2,000 RPM, smoothly traverse America’s highways, right? And here we are.

Jeremy: I can’t get it to turn.

Marco: Yeah. No shit. You know, like, so I mean, it’s come a long way, right? And like, man, the capability of these bikes now is insane.

Jeremy: What are you allowed to — alter the bags?

Marco: Yeah, we can. I mean, the bags are not stock, but they’re like — they’re stock in shape and they made a minimum requirement of stock like all things on it, I suppose. So I mean, right, everything is like what’s the regulation on that, right? So they’re carbon fiber bags. At one time they were like deli containers. Like you could push on the top easily and deflect it. Now they’re a little bit stronger, but like when we were really, really, really chasing weight, it was like everything was — and they were super fragile. Like now they’re — we’re more realistic.

Jeremy: How about brakes? That seems to be an issue.

Marco: Yeah. Yeah, brakes are definitely because of the weight. They’re definitely aftermarket. They’re — I mean, they’re non-stock, right? And they’re — I mean, we’re—

Jeremy: I thought that was one of the things that kept it stock was brakes must have been stock, but they’re not.

Marco: No. No, I mean brakes are like top — some of the top quality that you can get out there because—

Jeremy: What’s the weight? What’s the weight on one of those bikes?

Marco: Minimum is 620 lbs.

Jeremy: So, yeah, we’re — so again, these are kind of the fences, you know, that we play in, right? But we try to do as much to make them racing bikes as we can. And I mean it shows, we’re, you know, not far off of, you know, if we look at some of the grids we can make superbike grid, you know, if we’re within a certain percentage, right? So in some of the cases we can do that on this 620 lb — I mean, granted, yes, we’re like 2.2 liter engine, but yeah, it’s pretty crazy what they can do.

Jeremy: I appreciate that. By the way, I had no idea that’s what you did.

Marco: Oh yeah.

Jeremy: I knew you were a smart guy. I didn’t know you were smart and cool. Is that fair to say?

Marco: I think I’m just nerdy in a way that is cool to some people.

Jeremy: Okay, I appreciate that. You’re — I feel like, you know, personally, like, I can usually get along with any nerd, right? Like, so I was talking to a guy at a party once that was talking about the intricacies of painting. I don’t know what you call it. These little characters like — I probably am wrong. Warhammer 5,000. Is that — so he’s like talking about painting these characters and like, “Yeah. Well, first you go with a gray wash and then you go through another one so that the chain mail looks realistic.” And he was like — I mean, he was talking to me about this. I was like, “Oh, whoa, dude.” And he was like, “All right, yeah, sorry. That’s really nerdy.” And I’m like, “Yeah, but I’m nerdy for like, you know, motorcycle stuff.” So, it’s not, you know, you appreciate detail.

Marco: I’m luckily nerdy in something that’s not like nerd. You know what I mean?

Jeremy: I get it. I get it. Yeah. I don’t know. So, let’s go back to your name. Tell me your name again.

Marco: Lazarovich.

Jeremy: You’re of some German — close. No. Or some — sorry — European lineage. That’s a big dart to throw. But yeah, Europe. Yes.

Marco: Yeah. My dad is from Yugoslavia, former Yugoslavia, Serbia. So, he’s from a small town near Kladovo, which would be now Petrovac, this like small village in the mountains near the Romanian border.

Jeremy: You maintain any of that culture in your household when you were growing up?

Marco: Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. We did like — we went to St. Sava the church on Oklahoma. We did like — I mean, I’m not going to lie, my dad like forced us to do like Serbian dance, which was good like to — but I, you know, I was not about it, but I, you know, now I think it’s kind of cool, you know.

Jeremy: You mean brothers and sisters?

Marco: I have a sister. Yeah. So me and my sister.

Jeremy: Your mom is a south sider?

Marco: My mom’s — no, she’s a far north sider. She’s like from the Kenosha area. So okay. Yeah.

Jeremy: Well, yeah. I find that fascinating that you still maintain a second generation culture.

Marco: Yeah. A little bit. Yeah.

Jeremy: And you’re married. You got kids?

Marco: I do not have kids. I’m married. Yep. I’m married. I got married in 2024.

Jeremy: Do you think your current house has any Yugoslavian culture in it?

Marco: Yeah, for sure. Because I — so I went to school in Milwaukee. I grew up like on the north side in Brown Deer and I bought my parents’ old house when I graduated college. So I live in the house that I grew up in now. And yeah, so there’s for sure there’s old—

Jeremy: Where’d you go to high school?

Marco: Brown Deer.

Jeremy: Okay. So I was supposed to go to Madison, but I went to Dominican. I grew up on 91st and Silver Spring.

Marco: Ah, you know, I mean, so we were somewhat—

Jeremy: Yeah, for sure. We have somewhat the same roots.

Marco: We used to own — so that’s what my dad did when he was here. He owned the car wash on 73rd and Mill Road. Right next to the DMV.

Jeremy: The DMV is not there anymore.

Marco: No, it’s there on Mill Road.

Jeremy: On Mill Road here?

Marco: Yeah. So you go that way and there used to be Sunday’s Best and like an old driving range. I think the driving range may still be there, but—

Jeremy: You’re talking about Johnson’s Go-Karts.

Marco: No, no, that’s on — that’s further up 76th. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.

Jeremy: I can’t remember which way. I’m — after this, we’re going to talk more in detail about that. I don’t want to waste your time over here talking about childhood memories, but I know the neighborhood.

All right. So, you mentioned very early on, I wrote down a quote that you said — you make a good goofball.

Marco: Yeah.

Jeremy: Well, what’s the parameters for that? What’s the guardrails for a good goofball?

Marco: You know, initially, you know, we started out with this stupid Pacific Coast that we bought, like me and some buddies bought. So, that’s what the baseline was — was I found a motorcycle Craigslist, runs. Honda Pacific Coast, runs. Okay, cool, man. $190. Neat.

So, I went to buy it and that was it. And I’m like, you know, because at the time the class is called inappropriate. I’m like, it is pretty inappropriate to race a touring bike. Also, fast forward to now. Haha, my life is a joke. But no, I mean, you know, like it is kind of crazy that that’s like what my career came into.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: But yeah, so we bought this bike and I don’t know, we didn’t really have any — I’m like, we should just do something with it. Do something fun. And I mean, not to get like too deep on all of them, but like, you know, in doing like — finally, so the — it was Pacific Coast for a few of them, you know, a few of my goofball things that we did. And then it was like, well, we got to do something else. Okay. So then I had this tuk tuk, right?

And like even all the ideas like after the first one — criteria has to be stupid. Like it has to be — it has to be entertaining. Like, you know, there have been years past like I don’t want to be, “Hey, I’m wearing a red shirt on a DTX. Isn’t that funny? I have a blue helmet and I’m on a Framer.” Okay. You know, so—

Jeremy: I hear you.

Marco: Has to be stupid. Has to be like get people involved. And then I wanted to be somewhat competitive like to try to have some speed because we’re on a track, right? Like now, okay, you can’t always handle, right? But like, all right, it has to be somewhat like — you have to go fast enough to like call it a race — entertaining.

Jeremy: Yes. Right.

Marco: So—

Jeremy: Well, that moment that you had with Chatty — it must have been Chatty Matty’s first event with us, who we love dearly, our host — and she sat on the back with you, and that’s when we fell in love with Chatty was her raw excitement when she rode on your jet ski.

Marco: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She — by the way, let me go back to the blue shirt. And the minimum — we get submissions. I approve, but when they come, they’re not, you know, “I’m gonna make a thing.” And then they get there like, “I couldn’t do the thing, so I did this thing.”

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: I remember a young man strapped a caution wet sign to his back and that was his goofball and then won, right? And that didn’t meet the minimum requirement. My point is just like when you go to a bagger race and you have, I’m sure, officials and you’re wringing your hands that your bike’s going to make minimum weight. That’s the pressure we should put on goofballs when they roll in.

Marco: I mean, but it is pretty tough though. Like I can kind of sympathize. And maybe — and I mean my buddies — I mean, okay, first of all, it’s not just me. I can’t do this shit by myself. Like I’ve got — but I am blessed enough to have enough idiots in my life that help me out with these ideas.

And man, like, yeah, we — all just at some point they’re like, “Dude, who cares, man. It’s a good enough fireman helmet,” or like — the chicken bike we made — like it took so long to make that stupid helmet with the brim and the beard and everything.

Jeremy: I didn’t even realize you were the chicken bike guy.

Marco: Yeah. Yeah.

Jeremy: I forgot about the chicken bike.

Marco: Yeah. I mean, so we like — it just — they’re like, “Enough, dude.” I’m like, “No.” Okay, we’re going to make a nest with an egg on the back of it. “Why? It’s already a giant chicken.” “Dude, because, dude, you know, like—”

Jeremy: For sure, dude.

Marco: I can be like, is it worth the time? I don’t know. I think in the end, like, and my now wife, who also rode on the back of that jet ski, Alex — she’s got to the point with this kind of stuff or my other stupid things that I do. She’s like, “You know what? I tell you it’s too much and then everyone loves it. So just do what you want to do and — but your friends are going to hate you.”

And I mean, so I get it. Like, is it a ton of work? Yes, for sure. But I’m like, man, if we can just do this one more little touch, dude. You know, like—

Jeremy: Quantify the amount of work. Give it, you know, on the jet ski that I know that took hours. Painting the paint job on that thing.

Marco: Well, and that — yeah, dude. That was — that one sucked. That one sucked so bad to make. But, you know, we had the post moment from COVID, which kind of sucked because we were right there ready with that bike and then I had to sit on it for another like 18 months or whatever it was, dude.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: So, I’ve got this sick jet ski and I’m like, “What, should I take to a car show?” I’m like, “No, I want to unveil it properly like to rip out of,” you know what I mean? To rip out of the tunnel. Like, what is this?

Jeremy: Can you talk about that? Was it worth your expectation? Was it all you hoped it would be when you rolled out of that tunnel? Could you feel it?

Marco: Yeah. Yeah, it was sick. I mean, and then also, like, I mean, we also did well on it, right? Like, you know, I mean, and again, what’s doing well? I think really like putting on a show, like having people like it is — is that good enough? I mean, sure, but also everyone wants to win too, right? Like, but yeah, I don’t know. It’s awesome like to see—

And then also I talked to you guys ahead of time. “Dude, this thing’s going to be sick. We got to put it in the show.” And we arranged to put it in the show, too. So, like, man, it was super cool. And I don’t know. I mean, maybe I should have capitalized on my efforts. No, fame maybe, right? And like I should have Instagrammed it more and whatever. Like cuz people like, “You’re that dude,” and like, yeah. You know, I don’t know.

Jeremy: To be fair, the goatee handlebar and the blonde hair, you’re unrecognizable.

Marco: Well, that was another thing. That’s another thing. My wife’s like, “You’re an idiot. What are you doing?”

You know, and to be fair, so this was like — it wouldn’t have happened. So maybe that’s a good thing. It wouldn’t have happened if it was pre-COVID because I, in end of 2020, I got laid off from my job. So then I had all this time off. So I’m like, “Dude, I’m growing a mullet. I’m going full unemployment, dude.” Right. So like — no offense to mulleteers.

So I was like, “Dude, I’m going to grow this mullet out.” So then I was unemployed for like eight months and then I got this job back with Harley actually and I still had this mullet. So I’m like, “Dude, I got to wait it out a little bit. I got to wait it out a little bit.” So then I waited it out and then Flat Out Friday came along and I’m like, “Dude, it’d be sick like old Hogan like with the blonde stache,” and she was like, “What? You’re riding a motorcycle jet ski? Is that not enough attention?” I’m like, “Dude, but how sick would it be?” She’s like, “It’s stupid. It’s going to take you so much time.”

And that was 3 hours in a chair of getting the — bleaching your hair, getting the dye like — dude, I got pictures. I was like, “It’s just—” “No, no, you got to sit there.” So, here I am, right? Like, I don’t know how you call it, but she like brushes it in, right? And I’m sitting there, dude. Big stache. And it just like I’m just sucking in bleach for like 3 hours, dude. And I’m like, “Wait, women do this normally?”

Jeremy: Yeah. Every day of the week.

Marco: What? What’s wrong with you guys? You know, like, okay. All right.

Jeremy: Yeah. I didn’t really know. Maybe you said to me you were coming with that, but it didn’t even register. There’s so many details that go over my head that day of. But I do have a great image of you bumping through the pits to get it there. So you’re watching the show and then — excuse me — and so it was building from the pits. This energy was building. But then when you came out again, can you — do you remember coming out?

Marco: Dude, did you hear the crowd? Could you see the pointing?

Jeremy: Yeah, for sure.

Marco: Well, and there was another — when you guys had Larry and Tyler there.

Jeremy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marco: So when you guys had Larry and Tyler there, I also — so I was on the Pacific Coast, but it was like a cop bike. It was made to be like a police bike with lights and a siren and music or like—

Jeremy: Yeah. You were donut cop.

Marco: Yeah. For Donut Squad. So that’s another thing that I tried to do too, but like it’s man, that’s another like—

Jeremy: Were you jet pizza guy too?

Marco: Yeah. And so that was the first one.

Jeremy: I didn’t — so I’m learning this for the first time in lifetime. So if we go back — Jets Pizza Guy, that same Pacific Coast.

Marco: Yeah.

Jeremy: Give me a history here. Let’s go through the history. Let’s go to a linear history.

Marco: Yeah. Okay. Cool.

Jeremy: Jets Pizza Guy, then Donut Squad. And by the way, you said that you got free pizzas like for a year or something.

Marco: Well, actually that was the coolest, man. That’s one of the cool things that I try to do, but it’s so much time to try to get a sponsor. The sponsor to me, like, sure, it helps me out on money. Like, because obviously this stuff isn’t free, right? Like, I mean, okay, I’m out 190 bucks for Pacific Coast, right? But whatever, right? Like the rest of it, like costume, whatever, blah, blah, blah.

But if I can just like — the first Jets pizza was like the first sponsorship thing. So, dude, we’re eating Jets pizza. They had a new one at, on Burleigh — 124th and Burleigh, right? Something like that. Or no, 124th and North.

So, we had — shout out Nate, by the way, at that location. So, we were just going there eating pizza and then I’m like, “Hey man, what if I’m a delivery driver on this Pacific Coast, right?” Cuz again, like, “Oh, I’m just riding a Pacific Coast around. That’s not enough for me, right? Probably.”

So, I’m like, “How about if I’m the Jets pizza guy like off the box, dude.” I went in cold one day, right? Who knows if the owner’s working or whatever, right? I went in cold with a co-worker of mine. It’s like, “Did you just ask the dude?” I’m like, “Hey, is the owner here?” “Oh, yeah. He’s right here. He’s on the phone a little bit.” He’s like, “Yeah. What’s up?”

I’m like, “Hey, I’m going to race a motorcycle indoors.” Which already is like, “Yeah. No, man. We don’t have free pizza.” You know what I mean? Like, so I’m like, “Hey, I’m going to race a motorcycle indoors. I’d like to do like a delivery guy thing. And I’m wondering if you guys would do any sponsorship, if there’s like — do you guys have delivery bags or something like that?”

“Yeah. Hold on, man.” And then he goes back to his phone, just talking a little bit and then I’m like, “Okay.” Waiting for my pizza there. And he comes back and he’s like, “Hey, I’ve got the costume. You want to wear the costume?” I’m like, “Fuck, I don’t know if I can make the costume work.” I’m like, “Yeah, yeah, dude.” He’s like, “Yeah, I’ll — you can pick it up later today.” “Cool. Yeah. You want to just do that?” I’m like, “Sure. Yeah, I’ll need some pizza boxes.” “Yeah, no problem. All right. Yeah, just come back later.”

And he’s like talking, “Hey, what are the chances that you’re going to like wreck that costume?”

And I’m like, “…” He’s like, “Hold on.” And he goes off, he comes back and he’s like, “Yeah, man.”

I’m like, “Maybe 30%, I haven’t even ridden the thing, dude. It’s stuck right now. Like the brakes are frozen on it. It’s — I’m like, but you know, I’m not too wild. Like I’ll probably — I won’t wreck it probably. I don’t know. I never ridden it. 30%.”

“All right, cool. Because it’s like 4 G’s for me to like have this costume if I were to replace it.”

I’m like, “Four G’s?” So, but anyways, he gave me this costume. So, we did the race. We won the race. And then I came back and I’m like, “Hey, man. Here’s—”

He goes, “Dude, dude, you killed it.” He goes, “Dude, you killed — what?” He’s like, “I was getting calls from — I didn’t — I had no idea was going on. I forgot.” He goes, “Dude, I get calls from people. ‘Oh, dude. That’s so sick. You guys are doing that.’ ‘Yeah. Huh? What are you talking about?’ ‘Yeah. You’re the Jets pizza bike. That’s you.’ ‘Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is us.'”

He goes, “Dude, I got a call from corporate.” Corporate’s like, “Hey, man. Great idea. Grassroots marketing.” And he’s like, “So, they’re giving me props, dude.” He’s like, “Hey, I tell you what, dude. Thank you. Thank you. That was great. I’ll provide your whole workplace with pizza.”

And I’m like, “Oh, hey dude, let me before you do that, let me get some numbers.” Because at the time I was working at the Harley product development center. And so I’m like, “How — we got a lot of people, dude.”

So I like talked to all the right people there and I’m like, “Hey Nate, it’s 700 people here, dude. Like don’t worry.”

“Got it, dude. Give me whenever you figure it out, give me like four days notice.”

700 people, dude. No problem. Dude, they rolled up with a van, a minivan full of pizzas, like plates, everything. Harley shut down the cafeteria. They’re like, “Hey, dude. You guys aren’t needed next Wednesday,” and brought a minivan full of pizzas for everybody.

So, for a while, I mean, I don’t know. I wasn’t like working there that long. So, people like, “Hey, pizza guy.” Like every — and for like months or even probably a year later they’re like, “Hey, you’re that dude that got that pizza for us.” I’m like, “Yeah, yeah, dude. That was sweet.”

Jeremy: It’s funny how my brain remembers that to be a year’s worth of pizza, but it was actually just one big massive huge corporate event.

Let’s go back to your linear — pizza man or pizza guy. Then what?

Marco: Then I’m like, “Okay, what should I do?” Ah, it’d be pretty easy to turn into a cop bike. So then we made this like police bike and I’m like, “Okay, who around town at that point?” Like I think that Donut Squad on Farwell and North.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: So they were around. I’m like, “Hey, are you guys interested?” Like, “Yeah, sure.” And then so — and it’s always great like if you have like a sponsor who’s like jacked about it, right? So I mean, yeah, they were like, “We’ll provide you a bunch of donuts at the day of the events.” So I was like handing donuts out in the pits and like, you know, we were throwing donuts at people, whatever. So that was cool. And I mean they obviously were financially supportive of that too.

But then so then I was like I was an officer, right? So I had like — I had white motocross boots. I was wearing short shorts but then with like knee pads to kind of like, you know, be safe. And then yeah, so that was fun. And we had a good interview then with Deanna Dogen, I think, was the host at that point.

But that’s okay, getting back to that — at that one. So I won and then she has me come over for an interview. I pulled my helmet off and I had like Civil War chops.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: So like that one I specifically remember like I pulled my helmet off and then it was like — like the whole place erupted. So that was cool too. And again another probably my wife was like, “What? It doesn’t even matter.” But then like, “Oh yeah, people went nuts then for it.” So that was cool too.

Jeremy: All right. Third one.

Marco: Okay. So then it was Goodland Wing Company. They were off of Oakland and Locust maybe. Is that where Oakland Gyros is? They were like real close to Oakland Gyros.

And so I went in there. I was like — I don’t know where the hell I got the idea for a chicken bike even. No clue. I think cuz it was white already. I was like, “What if we make this thing a chicken?” So then like — this is where — so then I went in and I like again kind of cold called those guys and then met up with one of the partners.

Jeremy: And by now you have a resume. You have a — you can — you’re like, “Look at the portfolio, pal.”

Marco: All right. So, yeah, we — I talked to these guys and, you know, like typical, yes, I’m asking for some money, but like, “Hey, you guys got ideas, dude.” I’m like, “I’m with it.”

And one of the owners works at a company, I think it’s called Sign Effects, but his name is Adam Brown, and he was jacked. It was super cool. So, I’m like, “Yeah, I think about making a beak.” “Oh, you could do foam core.” And I’m like, “Hey, that’s actually a pretty good idea.” “Well, what? Oh, dude, you could.” And he was like all about it. I mean, it was still me and my buddies building it. But it was cool to have an owner that was like jacked and they — I mean, yeah, we basically, right, they financially partnered with us. We put Goodland Wing Company all over the bike.

That one was sick because like the beak was this big foam piece that we made. We made like a wing on the high side of the bike. So, I had to like put my leg inside of this huge feather wing and I’m like Amazoning like, “Dude, I need 60 lbs of feathers, right?” And like, you know, trying to—

And even then, right, all — like as detailed as that one was, like we were trying to figure out how to like feather cannon out of the back and then my buddy’s like, “Dude, they’re going to not let you ever do this again, right?” And you probably would be pissed about that, right? Like, “Bro, you just feathered our track,” right? Like I don’t know what would happen.

So that one, we did not win. I think Ronnie Zastrow won that.

Jeremy: Was he Elton John?

Marco: He was Elton John on that little XR100, which that thing was fast and like—

Jeremy: And he’s — it was supposed to spray sparkle.

Marco: Yeah, I think it did it, didn’t it? I don’t know. I don’t remember. But yeah. But yeah, trying to keep up with that thing, dude. I just didn’t have the lean angle. I crashed the hell out of that thing, dude. It was pretty awesome.

Jeremy: And you were dressed as a farmer or like—

Marco: I was dressed as a farmer and that was like one of the — that was the big helmet — like big skin tone helmet with like this big beard, hair out of the back, and then like this huge like cardboard and burlap sack material helmet.

Jeremy: Are you guys in the garage just like slapping your knee drinking beers, you know, for 6 months?

Marco: No, never 6 months. Never 6 months. It was always — it’s always been like, “Oh shit, Flat Out Friday’s—” I mean, since the first one, the first one was like — we actually did start kind of further out, but yeah, that was drinking beer and like — and also just like it was pretty shitty, like the box of pizzas that was like loosely tied on it would like rock back and forth.

Jeremy: Was pretty cool. I remember that.

Marco: There was also like a hand, like a Halloween decoration hand sticking out of the trunk of the thing. There’s all — it was just a weird—

Jeremy: Well, stay linear here. Chicken. What’s next?

Marco: Chicken. Then after the chicken — or maybe in between the chicken — I actually got a police bike from Harley.

Jeremy: Okay.

Marco: So, and they let me race as a — but then for that one I wore like pants and it was a little bit more serious. So like, but that was again we partnered with Donut Squad, but that I think that was like one of the summer ones or something like that, right? So man, that one like flew by. That was basically sticker kit to like a Harley police bike, which was cool to like to have that out there, a legit police bike.

Jeremy: Okay.

Marco: But then after that it was chicken bike. Then it was right to jet ski.

Jeremy: Okay.

Marco: And jet ski, a buddy of mine at Harley, he was really into — what do you call them? Water, whatever — jet skis like — but like the stand-up jet skis, like whatever, fancy hulls and whatever. But he had a buddy of his that he was like, “I’ve got to help this dude get rid of the stock hull. He’s going to chop it up and throw in the garbage.” And I was like, “Okay, well, I’ll catch you next—”

“Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on, dude. I’ll solve two problems. I’ll free you up this weekend. I’ll take the jet ski hull. I’ll see — if worst case, I cut it up and throw it in my like regular garbage bin.” Right.

So, I took that over to my buddy Brad — was helping me with all these Flat Out Friday bikes before and I took it over to his house and I’m like, “Check it out, dude.” And open the van doors and he sees this jet ski hull and he’s like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’re going to build a jet—” I’m like, “I’m going to build a jet ski on the Pacific Coast.”

Jeremy: He’s like, “So that was the Pacific Coast.” I had no idea because it’s such a weird motorcycle. Like everything is almost built like a scooter, right? Like it’s — the airbox where the gas tank is. Gas tank is under the seat. You could kind of do a lot with it, right? It has some weird saddle bag trunk thing. It’s like a Honda Accord. It was so strange.

Marco: But he’d helped me build all these other ones, the chicken bike, the pizza bike, and the cop bike. And he’s like, “Dude, it’ll never work.” I’m like, “Okay, well, fine. But just humor me. Let’s just take the tape out,” right? So he’s like, “Take the tape measure out.” “Dude, I’m telling you, it’s not going to work because this is 71. This is 70 and a half.” Like, it was so close.

And okay, it wasn’t — all right, that’s it.

It was close enough to be able to put a ton of time in and then make the hull work. Like, dude, the amount of hacksawing fiberglass and then like you’re trying to cover everything up and like get — have a dude with a vacuum there while you’re cutting it. Like, dude, I still itch thinking about that bike, dude.

Jeremy: How do you connect it to the frame? Are you welding little arms?

Marco: Welded like — there were kind of tip over bars on the frame. So, then we kind of built off of what was there and then built like little standoffs for that. And then we mounted it so it basically held, I think, two or three on the front and then two on the rear, like the saddle bag mounts on the rear we had to modify a bit but then that worked out pretty well on that.

And yeah, so — but then it was this whole thing like again trying to find sponsors because that one was like — that one was super legit.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Marco: So, we did — yeah, you know, again, man, if we’re gonna do it, let’s do it. You know, we had a bunch of — we had a bunch of good — I mean, at this one it was more or less like stickers on the bike like to make it work except for Aces Bodywork and Butler. I took the hull to them and was like, “Hey, dude. This is what I plan on doing.” And the guy was super cool. He’s like, “Okay.”

And I was like, “Dude, got to be like — I want flake, dude. Put like heavy flake and as heavy a flake as you can, dude. I like — we need to do something stupid, right? It’s already going to be loud.”

All right. So, like, oh, and we had like — in order to make the tank area kind of work, we custom fiberglassed. So, this dude was into jet skis and these like fancy stand-ups, he showed me how to custom fiberglass. So, we built this custom fiberglass and then, you know, a bunch of idiots. “Oh, yeah. We’ll, you know, we’ll tie and Bondo and get it smooth enough to paint.”

We took it to Aces to get it painted and he was like, “Yeah, yeah.” We’re like, “Yeah, we prepped it.” He’s like, “You — for you guys, for idiots, you prepped it.” Yeah. You know, I mean, he wasn’t pissed. Like, he was like, “But—”

Jeremy: It was on the bike or you took the hull in separate?

Marco: Hull in separate. So then he was like, “Yeah, it’s a lot of work.” And I was like, “Yeah, man. We tried.” He’s like, “I can see you tried. But it’s going to be a lot of work.” And I was like, “Hey dude, I can try to get some more money.” And he’s like, “No, man. I told you I’d do it and we’ll do it.”

And then so I was actually out of town. I went on vacation during the painting. My buddy picked it up and I was like, “Hey man, how’d it show up?” “Dude, you need to see it.” I’m like, “Good, bad?” He’s like, “Dude, you just need to take a look.” I’m like, “Fuck, is there—” I’m like, “It’s a professional body—” Like, I was like pretty pissed. Like, “It’s professional. They can’t—”

I got there. I’m like, “Oh, dude. Dude, what? How did — it’s so good. It’s so good.”

And then my buddy like did some pin striping like just with like tape on his own. I’m like, “Dude, this is insane.” You know?

But then like, “Ah, but those kind of plastic rivets in the front, those are white.” “Yeah, but dude, we’re this far already.” “Oh my god. Do you know how much of a pain—” “I’ll do it, dude.” Okay. I’m like, and, “Dude, we’re leaving stock wheels.” “Well, what do you—”

So then I think he actually — man, he did a great job. He was like, “I bet I could plasti dip them.” So, it’s like pink plasti dip, dude. It was still a pain in the ass, but the result was awesome. Like tucked in cardboard, whatever. Like, but the result was pretty sick. Like, that bike is a turd.

Jeremy: By the way, the Pacific Coast as far as like a race bike. Is that still a thing? Is the jet ski still an actual physical thing?

Marco: Yes. Yeah. I should figure out how to street legalize it.

Jeremy: What? Why? What’s not—

Marco: How could you not?

Jeremy: It doesn’t have lights right now.

Marco: Okay. I suppose — also, I think that seems easy. It was a salvage or it was crashed when we got it and the guy I got it from — and I don’t think it’s shady. I mean, maybe it’s shady. I don’t know. But I don’t think it’s shady because like who would steal a Pacific Coast, right?

But like he was like, “A friend of mine crashed it and he said that I should just get rid of it and as long as it never goes on the road again.” And I’m like, “Who — what do you care?” But, you know, so like maybe I should figure out like if I really were to get it titled, but I mean, yeah, it’s ready to go mechanically, I guess.

Jeremy: All right. Well, that’s not the end of the story, though. That’s not the end of the lineage story of your bikes.

Marco: Yes. Yes, it is. Well, well, well, of the Pacific Coast.

Jeremy: Pacific Coast. That was the kind of — that was the dilemma, like what do I do with the Pacific Coast afterwards? Man, I can’t — I can’t ruin the jet ski. That thing is mint. Like, dude, it was custom fiberglass to make the steering box fit everything. Like, man, it’s cool. I really should try to street legalize it just to show it out more.

But, so yeah, then I’m like, “All right, what do I do next?” And, man, you know, I’ve been to Thailand a few times with my wife. Like, I — and I love the tuk tuks over there. Like it just is such a strange thing. And it’s so everyday there that man I tried importing for a while. Like I was looking — I talked to a helmet distributor from Thailand. I talked to him, tried to get him to like, “Hey dude, how do I get this — how do I get a tuk tuk over here?”

Talked to importers then cuz that ended up being like the biggest thing. These importers, I talked to a few of them. One guy got mad at me. He’s like — I’m like, “I’m just bringing the chassis over.” Or, “I’m not.” “Nope. I don’t believe you. I bet that you’re going to try to motorize it.” I’m like, “Well, what does it matter anyways?” He’s like, “I am not going to be involved in any type of fraud.” I’m like, “Whoa. Okay, geez, dude.” Even if it’s closed course, right? Like, okay.

So man, I’m not going to be able to get a — I’m not going to be able to do a tuk tuk at all, right? Because that would be a neat thing to do for me.

So, I found one on Facebook Marketplace in Friendship, Wisconsin. That’s the one that I ended up racing and I found this thing and I was like, “Hey, dude, when can I pick it up?”

“I’ve actually got a few people coming out. What if I — well, are — what if I come out earlier?”

“Well, some guy’s coming out tomorrow morning.” And this was like — I think it was either — it was a school night, right? Like, so I had work the next morning. My wife had work the next morning, right? Like I was like, “Ah.”

So I tell my wife, I’m like, “Dude, I got to buy this thing. Even if it’s blown motor, whatever. Like, I got to buy this thing.”

So I’m like, “Hey—” I talked to my wife. I’m like, “Hey—”

[Interruption for someone at the shop]

Sorry for that. It’s okay. We good on time. I know. I’m like—

Jeremy: No, you’re good. We’re almost done.

Marco: Oh, so you raced the tuk tuk as the fireman with your wife.

Jeremy: As the fireman with my wife. No, no, no, no. The — my wife went and got it for me like at—

Marco: Oh, that totally. Yeah.

Jeremy: So, that’s where I was going with that. At 9:00 PM on a like a shitty, sleepy, snowy night, I’m like, “Hey, I’m gonna go get this.”

Marco: This woman loves you.

Jeremy: Yeah. Yeah.

Marco: Hold on to her.

Jeremy: She’s great. She’s great. So, I’m like, “Hey, I’m going to go pick up this tuk tuk.” And she’s like, “All right.” And she starts — I’m like, “Dude, I’m like, she’s pissed, dude.” She was getting her coat on. I’m like, “What are you — you want to go?” She’s like, “Yeah.” She’s like, “What? You’re going to drive yourself?” I’m like, “Yeah.” I mean, it’s two and a half hours away, right?

So, this dude is like, “Yeah, if you guys want to, if you’re willing to show up?” So, we go and show up. And yeah, he — it’s this old dude. He’s like, “I just — I got it from this gentleman in Illinois, and I just go and get the mail with it in Friendship here.” And that’s all he did with it until it stopped running.

“And I don’t know. I’m sure for a guy, you probably know how to get things working.” I’m like, “Yeah, sure. I can — I’m sure I can figure it out.” Start up, ran. I’m like, “Okay, cool. Yeah, I’m good.”

And he’s like, “I bought these little wooden ladders. It’s like a little fire truck.” And I’m like, “Okay.” And we start like — I’m like, “Yeah, cool. If any paperwork you’ve got for it, cool. Otherwise, like whatever. I don’t need paperwork. I’m just gonna ride it inside.” Okay.

My machine. He’s like looking at — I’m like, “Dude, you posted it.” And he’s like, “I’m going to miss my machine.”

My wife is like, “You’re going to take this from this guy?” And I’m like, “He’s got it for sale. He’s not going to get it back running.” She’s like, “I just feel — don’t you feel bad?” And I’m like, I mean, he does love his machine.

So now, like anytime we talk about it, my wife’s like, “The machine? You’re going to race the machine?” Yeah. “You’re going to make the machine into a fire truck?”

And so, yeah, that one we didn’t have a sponsor, but that was kind of a quick turnaround. But again, okay, so we dig into this one. Why isn’t it working? It’s got this weird chain drive to a forward/reverse gearbox then to an open differential in the back. So, whatever. We don’t have to get into the nerds.

Jeremy: No, I get it. I have a broad stroke of that.

Marco: Sheared a key. Okay. I’ve got my buddies over drinking beer, eating pizza. Probably Jets pizza.

Jeremy: Shut up, Jets.

Marco: So, we’re taking this thing apart and we — okay. I’m like, man, you know, but a 100cc little Honda parallel or Honda horizontal, dude, that’s not going to move this thing for shit, you know? So, I’m like looking around. I’m like, man, I can buy a 200cc, which should like quadruple the power originally, right? So, I get that.

And also, there were a little bit of issues with the motor anyways. So, put that thing together and then we take it around a little bit and it’s kind of quick, but then we’re like, “Fuck, it won’t turn.” Like, as soon as you turn it lifts a wheel up, open differential. It just starts spinning the wheel in the air.

So, I’m like, “Shit, I need a monkey.” My one buddy Jamie, he’s like, and — “100, what? For real?” He’s like, “Oh, 100%.”

So I’m like, “Okay, well, we got to figure out a theme.” Like, I think, you know, we’ll just do a Flat Out Friday fire department. So, I was like, “Flat Out Fire Department.” It was FOFD. My buddy TJ made stickers and he helped with a bunch of the — I mean, all my buddies, you know, it was a big group effort to get this thing going.

But so my buddy was the monkey in the back of it as this dog and with the dog helmet on. It’s got like floppy ears in front of the eyes. He’s like, “Dude, I can’t — like so we have — there’s a practice at Flat Out Friday in the morning and he’s like — so we do like, just, you know, I have the boots that I’m going to wear just to see like logistics. “Man, can I wear these fireman boots that I got from my wife’s uncle who’s a fireman?” Like, “Can I wear these boots? Am I going to be able to, you know, get after it on this thing or whatever?”

And my buddy’s got the dog. He’s like, “Dude, I can’t see shit.” He’s like, “Those ears, man. They keep getting in the way.” So, he like — we tied in like these little ropes so he could really hang off. And he did a hell of a job as the dog, you know?

Maybe the only thing about that one — maybe I think it would have been funnier if the fireman was hanging off and the dog was driving, right?

Jeremy: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good bit.

Marco: But whatever. It was still cool.

Jeremy: Again, I think, you know, did we win?

Marco: We won the hearts of the fans.

Jeremy: You won the hearts of the fans and that’s what really counts.

Marco: That’s what second place says. Or whatever? Third, whatever it was.

Jeremy: But do you have that? And so are we at the end of the lineage?

Marco: Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

Jeremy: Is there anything for the future?

Marco: Yes.

Jeremy: Okay. I do want you to know that if you apply now, you can get a decent scholarship.

Marco: Well, I think we’ll have to talk.

Jeremy: Okay. We’ll have to—

Marco: I’ve got, you know, I didn’t bring the portfolio, but we just talked about it.

Jeremy: I would like to apply.

Marco: Okay. Good. You have a good shot.

Jeremy: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I — yeah, I mean, hopefully we can do it justice to some of the past performances and—

Marco: Yeah. Well, I appreciate you for again giving some history here to all the things that happened. You keep — you do a good job of keeping your cards close to your chest. And you don’t really ever say anything and then you’re there and I’m — my brain just can’t handle the details of sorting it all in. It isn’t until I see it on the internet the next day like, “Oh my god, the chicken. Oh my god, the fire truck.” I didn’t even notice these things.

Well, okay. So, that’s — I think that’s pretty good. I don’t want to belabor this anymore. I think we picked your brain really well.

Jeremy: Yeah, for sure.

Marco: You have a very interesting story. You’re a smart dude and your attention to detail is much appreciated. That’s what’s going on in this chopper shop right here is the attention to detail and the folks that dork out on these and, you know, I mean that in a fun way, like you dorked out on the details of your events. You know, there’s many similarities.

Jeremy: Mhm.

Marco: I think it’s appropriate that we’re here in this shop. So, I’m clapping it up for you, Marco.

Jeremy: Thanks.

Marco: Thanks for coming in. Despite me — and my partners, they’re here in spirit. I’m here in Warren’s shop. And again, Scott is missing. But thanks for your time.

Jeremy: Thank you.

Marco: All right, that’s it, Marco. Thank you.

Jeremy: Sweet.